This world has good in it. No. Go to #10. of Friends of Epicurus, Letters on Epicurus: A Dialogue about Happiness. 3. God’s name was derived from an ancient Hebrew word that means ‘he causes to become’. For those of you who don't know what the Epicurean Paradox is, it is as follows: Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. Your email address will not be published. Evil is almost like a parasite, requiring good to feed upon. He believed that the ‘gods’ were off angry somewhere upstairs. Go to # 4. Epicureanism - Epicureanism - Criticism and evaluation: In the first half of the 17th century, at a time when Gassendi was reviving atomistic Epicureanism, René Descartes, often called the founder of modern philosophy, offered arguments that tended to undercut atomism. The Promise of Living from The Tender Land, National Pulse ‘Patriot of The Year’: Rudolph Giuliani, Bill Barr’s DOJ Aided Biden Campaign by Hiding Hunter Investigation, Dem Candidate Insists on Recounts, Audits… But Only for the Race She Lost, Chinese Communist ‘Gospel’ teaches that Jesus killed a woman. As a former Christian Fundamentalist I do rightly understand Epicurus. Epicurus of Samos (341-270 BC), who flourished not long after Aristotle died, founded a school of philosophy that convened at his home and garden in Athens. We have an American President who doesn’t ”believe” in global climate change, despite overwhelming evidence and almost daily experience of it. Go to 2. Re: The Epicurean Paradox. Yes. Yes. ISK: 122.66m: 513,212: 59.01m: 482,027: 67.5: 100,261; Ships: 0: 100,433: 1: 139,541: 0.0: 100,261 (John 8:44). Demetrius’ had proposed the theory of Atomism to account for change in nature. Epicurean paradox: 29 ships destroyed and 32 ships lost. It prefers self-interest, dubious dealings, lies, bullying and filling its own pockets at our expense. Go back to # 7. The Bible mentioned in Psalms that “man’s heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?” (Jeremiah 17:9). Go to # 27. Evil is a necessary tool. (1Corinthians 10:13). The Epicurean paradox or riddle of Epicurus or Epicurus' trilemma is a version of the problem of evil. It”s sad to admit to the damnation mankind has to the cruel cycle of: good, to bad, to worse. I just found out about this today and I searched Catholic Answers to see if this was answered somewhere, but my search came up empty. It is never God’s will that man do evil. Knowing proof of faith can be as simple as acknowledging gravity. A story about Moses (18:65-82) illustrates both human impatience and the all-too-human failure in making accurate judgments. G. K. Chesterton observed, "We are perishing for want of wonder, not for want of wonders." Reality is a plenum, he held, a complete fullness; there can be no such thing as a vacuous region, or the void of atomism. In this parable Moses meets a man, known as Khidr in the Islamic tradition, − who has special knowledge that he received from Allah. No. 4.An omniscient being knows every way in which evils can come into existence. I am only passionately curious.“ (Genesis 2:10-15) He also gives rain and sunshine even to unrighteous ones. promoted to his followers the notions of another ancient Greek philosopher, Demetrius (c. 460 – c. 370 B.C.). Hope I find can bring strength and help us to live and believe things to work out, but it could be a mask for our stupidity when the truth is, you can’t fix what is beyond repair. Go to 16. Our ability to care for them more than even our own lives is Spiritual. No. Stoic and Epicurean—two words that do not mean what people think they mean. 21. In short, the death penalty, banned in most civilized countries, is not only un-Epicurean but un-Christian as well. Do you believe this? (Levitucus 19:18) (1John 5:19) Think about this. This video is unavailable. 15. If he wants to, but cannot, he is impotent. If they have the will … Man was also given free will and he can choose right or wrong. Apologetics. Your email address will not be published. (Genesis 3:1-5). No one can refute or deny your thoughts here Peter. To receive godly comfort/hope one has to (a) study and apply his counsel found in his inspired word, the Bible, and (b) Throw his/her burdens to him by means of prayer. Our choice is sure to follow. Go to #4. Yes. If they can but will not, then they are not benevolent. Yes. Evil causes harm and suffering. Go to 21. Required fields are marked *. But with each of these “solutions” there is an insurmountable difficulty. No. I believe if we face the question, "if not now, then when?" (Proverbs 14:12; Jeremiah 10:23). Would you like to use your freedom to choose/ free will to love God by obeying his laws (1John 5:3) ? 6. ~~~ Our great challenge isn’t to know who God truly is, it’s to simply know there is a God and we’re not Him. We don’t know the…, China’s Communist government has given the world another example of how socialism is incompatible with Christianity, literally chapter and verse. Although it appears obviously true that the sun revolves around the Earth, this is not an accurate reflection of reality. Hope more are enlightened. Epicurus died a couple of centuries before the birth of Jesus and Christianity, so if he really is the originator of this conundrum then it isn’t specifically aimed at the Church, but it is a philosophical question which still applies to our society today. Epicurus is generally credited with first expounding the problem of evil, and it is sometimes called “the Epicurean paradox”: “Either God wants to abolish evil, and cannot; or he can, but does not want to. The love of our children. It is too good to waste on jokes.” C.S. There is no evidence that God caused the first evil. The present world is evil, and ruled by the evil one, Satan. Lewis. The Epicurean Paradox, also known as the Problem of Evil, (possibly attributable to the philosopher Epicurus, but known by his name regardless of whether this is historically accurate) points out the contradiction between the existence of evil in the world and the supposed existence of a god who is omniscient (all-knowing), omnipotent … 2. Through the centuries there is no evidence of the intervention of God in human affairs. Yes. Divine glory is riding on a donkey weeping over Jerusalem and the people who rejected their vocation. I am courteous and therefore have to take your information as accurate, even if I have never seen such an assertion before. That’s illogical. His name is JEHOVAH or YAHWEH. There is no evidence that God caused the first evil. Hence, it still is conjuring a debate: whether God wishes to take away COVID, and is unable; or he is able, and unwilling; or He is neither willing nor able, then why calls him God? 1. Would you like to be a robot, or loved by a robot? (Galacian 6:7,8; 2Chronicles 12:2,7,8) No. God became man and lived with him. Your cheerful and positive conclusion, that “evil is eventually defeated, everywhere” is most heartening, but regretfully I do not agree with you. If if were so then you must accept the written word of all religions. No. No. Plus ca change. Lastly, if they are both able and willing to annihilate evil, why does it exist?” ― Epicurus. A clue is given above by the commentator who pointed out God is not a baby sitter nor is he Santa Claus, for that matter. No. Sending Jesus Christ is his ultimate intervention and this provided a lasting solution. HOME. If God used his power to know things in advance (omniscience) and prevent humans from committing evil everytime, then man’s freedom of choice/free will would be greatly impaired–thus making humans mere robots. Is he able, but not willing? Believers and agnostics ask same as that of Epicurus. Thanks to th… 23. Watch Queue Queue The Bible based algorithm below solves/disputes the Epicurean Paradox BEGIN. Choices have consequences, as most of us know from life experiences. Go to 15 The issue raised in Eden was: whether humans do not need God to tell them what is right or wrong. If he killed the first rebels, other intelligent beings–angels per Job 38:4,7–would have thought that the issue raised by Satan, and his human cohorts was true. "We have entered, as I see it, a spiritual limbo. God has proven again and again that he is patient, long suffering and desirous of man’s turning to him. Quiet to the Sound of Many Waters, Listen to the Wind.. Rejoice in the Wisdom of Gods presence. Go to 20. Go to 25 1. Impatient, they could not even wait for Moses to come off the mountain. — The Epicurean paradox, ~300 BCE There is no surviving written text of Epicurus that establishes that he actually formulated the problem of evil in this way, and it is uncertain that he was the author. Read Romans 15:4; Psalm 65:2; 119:2,93, 105; 1Peter 5:6,7 The beauty in nature itself. Heirloom quality tools that are made in the United States and built to last. bazackward May 6, 2012, 4:35pm #1. It would be impossible to love evil unless one knew the difference between evil and good. It is too vast for us even to comprehend. 11. The problem of evil, also known as the Riddle of Epicurus, states: If God is willing to prevent evil, but is not able to Then He is not omnipotent. Why blame God when things do not go our way? Go to # 20. How do you respond to this? Robots/artificial intelligence do not have freedom to choose/ free will–except for their built in programs. No. As with any argument, the success of an argument that relies on the Epicurean Paradox rests on a set of basic assumptions, where if any of those basic assumptions can be shown to be invalid, then the whole application of the Epicurean Paradox can be shown to be invalid. Give him a stick and he will use it for bad or good. In this analogy, it may be said that evil could not exist without good. Epicurean Paradox - the simple refutation by a theist by Rebeca - 06:42 Just the other day, a good friend of mine who's an atheist came up to me with this: the Epicurean Paradox. Accepting our mortality is the beginning of Wisdom. He is riding on a donkey to meet evil head on and to put the world right. We can choose to believe in a living source within each of us that can grow and prosper even in times of utter desperation or live in the shadows that also draw us Thanks for enlightening the people who interacted here. Our task as image-bearing, God-loving, Christ-shaped, Spirit-filled Christians, following Christ and shaping our world, is to announce redemption to a world that has discovered its fallenness, to announce healing to a world that has discovered its brokenness, to proclaim love and trust to a world that knows only exploitation, fear and suspicion...The gospel of Jesus points us and indeed urges us to be at the leading edge of the whole culture, articulating in story and music and art and philosophy and education and poetry and politics and theology and even--heaven help us--Biblical studies, a worldview that will mount the historically-rooted Christian challenge to both modernity and postmodernity, leading the way...with joy and humor and gentleness and good judgment and true wisdom. 1.God exists. Did an angel, or human cause the 1st evil (death/suffering)? Accepting pour need for God is itself Faith to believe and this appetite Ned’s to be fed. An issue of right to rule (sovereignty) was raised. God will eliminate all evil in the future. Go to # 4. A more permanent cure is coming. God destroyed an evil world in the days of Noah. As such, his philosophy was then able to avoid atomism’s inherent determinism and to allow for man’s free will. Yes. 12. In popular parlance, Epicureanism means devotion to pleasure, comfort, and high living. 5. The issue of sovereignty was again raised in 1Samuel 8:4-9; John 19:15. Go to # 27. But he has given man the will to choose. Ask any Christian if you don’t know how to turn away from the evil God abhors. (Galacian 6:7) According to Islamic teachings, although human beings can grasp just a small part of reality, they are inclined to make judgments as if they perceive the whole of reality. He said that atoms do not always go in straight lives but can “swerve”. Go to # 18. Go to #13. Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. I like the way you presented it. If you don’t recognise this then you Re making the same mistake as many did in the 1930s, to their horrific cost. Did God cause the 1st evil (death of Adam & Eve)? An island in the sea may be just the top of a large mountain, and our personality is like that island. A Chinese textbook teaches students that Jesus Christ stoned a woman to death while admitting that He is a sinner. The world was thrown into turmoil by Hitler and the other fascists, and millions died defeating them. Author has 114 answers and 236.7K answer views. No. “The gods can either take away evil from the world and will not, or, being willing to do so cannot; or they neither can nor will, or lastly, they are able and willing. Go to # 27. God gave the 1st humans an earthly paradise as home to widen and care for. 7. (Matthew 5:5; Psalm 37:29). It was instigated by a rebellious angel, Satan. This is a list of paradoxes, grouped thematically.The grouping is approximate, as paradoxes may fit into more than one category. (2Peter 3:9) This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Yes. One last comment: Meditation and Contemplation are tools we can utilize. “It is folly for a man to pray to the gods for that which he has the power to obtain by himself.” –Epicurus. Go to # 14. 2.God is omnipotent, omniscient, and perfectly good. The “Epicurean Paradox” had been addressed and solved. Go to #10. Epicureanism and similar humanistic philosophies are what we have left to us. It almost leaves me to wonder, why bother believing things to stay stable, when it only take a whiff of wind to topple our “peace”. He also destroyed the evil inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah. Just a few centuries before the first Palm Sunday, Greek philosopher Epicurus (341-270 B.C.) 26. Go to 27. 22. by Makaveli08: 10:26am On Nov 24, 2016 The logical problem of evil is considered by most philosophers today to have been refuted by Alvin Plantinga's freewill defense. and from the River to the ends of the earth. The world has never been the same. Just the same…. Lactantius attributes this trilemma to Epicurus in De Ira Dei , 13, 20-21: God, he says, either wishes to take away evils, and is unable; or He is able, and is unwilling; or He is … Go to # 23 Now the Epicurean paradox is basically a restatement of the problem of evil which is. The source of Gods existence is all around us. If God use omniscience to eliminate natural causes of evil–disease, tsunamis–then humans would not reap the consequences of the 1st rebellion in Eden, as well as subsequent ones. Our growing ability to learn and develop our own existence. Jesus Christ whom God sent ressurected the dead, cured diseases, and even stopped a stormy sea. Did an angel, or human cause the 1st evil (death/suffering)? And it often comes down to choices made by man. The Quiet One speaks to all who listen. THE ORIGIN OF SIN AND WHO SATAN IS (PART III) – Priest ITM White, Epicureanism after Epicurus – The influence of Epicurus on Western thought, Epicurus and Politics: why I think he was wrong, Things You Should Never Post Online but Probably Do, Ways to Check If You’re Visiting a Safe Website, What Teens Shouldn’t Put in Their Social Media Profiles, International Soc. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Or make sense of a world so in need of our proper order. ( Log Out /  Evil exist. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! Nothing lasts forever. We can choose the endless void and play the victim. (Genesis 3:1-6,19; John 8:44) After the rebellion in Eden, the Bible teaches that man caused evil to himself and others. Our educational institutions are no longer the bearers of high culture, and public life has been deliberately moronised. Would you like to continue? Go to # 22. ~~~ Change ). God is Almighty. The Christian/Muslim god is also the God of Judaism and is considered to be the original source of the "Christian/Muslim" god. Epicurus didn’t see this “swerve” coming, but the prophet Zechariah did. 4.The Bible teaches that the first evil (death) was caused by the rebellion in Paradise. (Jude 7) Go to 16. Yes. Welcome to r/askphilosophy. Saying the writings of a small group of people who also believed magic was real, witches existed, and the stars effected one’s life is not proof that a god intervened. Go to 26. 2. The “Epicurean paradox” or “Riddle of Epicurus” is a version of the problem of evil. God is all knowing. 3. Two examples are: (a) the 10 commandments in Exodus 20:3-17. Humans will reap what they sow. Such a hypothesis turned philosophy by Epicurus gave Epicurus the ‘means’ to do away with a personally involved god and remove human accountability. Not surprisingly, the recent occurrence of this kind of natural evil that affected greatly ideologies and thus raises up again the epicurean paradox. Pingback: THE ORIGIN OF SIN AND WHO SATAN IS (PART III) – Priest ITM White. Epicureanism, in a strict sense, the philosophy taught by Epicurus (341–270 BCE). Go to 24. Is and was and is to come… Live simply with an attitude of Gratitude and you’ll be half way home before you know it…. Then chooses to punish And torture men for eternity for choosing wrong? 24. Why evil? We now have the start of a repeat, when moderation is out of the window, along with democracy and truth. Go to 27. It’s called the Epicurean Paradox, and it’s attributed to the Greek philosopher Epicurus. (Revelations 5:9,10). It is not Gods choice to live a dismal existence. Epicurean Solutions' deep culinary passion inspires our creativity, and gives life to our adventurous vegetarian artisan deli salads. (Matthew 5:45). So, too, Deism, began to take root. God’s promise to eliminate all evil in the future is recorded in Proverbs 2:21,22; and Revelations 21:2-4. Go to 3. Yes. ***** Man had to make do with the atoms he had. No. The Principal of Light is the formation of positive value moving in the same direction. (Quote by - Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.) You undergo too strict a paradox, Striving to make an ugly deed look fair. 13. You just have to choose. Go to 3. The truth be told. Jesus Christ said that Satan caused the 1st evil. I will take away the chariots from Ephraim. Go to # 27. Go to # 17 This quotation does indeed bring “comfort and joy.”. On Palm Sunday, every theory about God had been proven false. The theory in brief: random, unguided ‘atoms’ (as he called them) smash into each other, thereby creating the world and life as we know it. Palm Sunday. Use of the Epicurean paradox an ancient Greek way of thinking that many pleasure seeking Romans adopted didn't do much for either civilization. “Epicurus’ school, which was based in the garden of his house and thus called “The Garden”, had a small but devoted following in his lifetime.”. Epicurus also taught that nothing should be believed, except for that which was tested through direct observation and logical deduction – believed via the sensate and reason. Jesus would be everything you need to know about God. (John 17:3) For more information visit http://www.jw.org. The Bible based algorithm below solves/disputes the Epicurean Paradox ( Log Out /  Assuming God is real...? Knowing Jehovah–his character, what he likes, or doesn’t like–could mean eternal life for you and your family. Epicurean Paradox. This list collects only scenarios that have been called a paradox by at least one source and have their own article on Wikipedia. "But God gave humans free will" If God is omnipotent, it knows all motion of all matter, therefore it knows our future, leading to the conclusion God created all motion and future. Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. ( Log Out /  One of his earliest laws could have prevented death, the 1st evil. Again, one might expect evidence of intervention at the present moment, with the planet in peril, with so-called “strong men” taking control over countries throughout the world, with inequality, mass migration, hunger, the breakdown of liberal democracy and the end of American hegemony, which did at least guarantee a measure of order. The recent pandemic called COVID 19 has brought about wide destruction to the society globally. Our innovative products are made in small batches with ingredients sourced locally whenever possible, fresh herbs picked by hand and all dressings made from scratch. If He is able, but not willing The millions of infected cases, death of many, and the numerous suffering people that are still in confinement nowadays are evidence that there is evil. We can choose to starve or grow in ways of faith and mercy. Life itself is our gift. Their children, now imperfect, would have choices: to serve God/or not; to choose life or death. [186] Go to # 5. He can know what the future lies. (b) love of fellow humans. According to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, an epicure is a person who “appreciates fine food and drink”; this is the modern misinterpretation of Epicureanism, an ancient philosophy which does make pleasure the goal of life—but not sensual pleasures (sorry)—and incorporates a broad range of other philosophical positions—about the nature of reality, knowledge, society, and the gods, and a philosophy of how to live which goes well beyond “bottoms up!” Epicureanism is named after the ancient Greek philos… Finally, over millennia, it is possible to note that good has triumphed. In his mercy and justice to humans he allowed Adam and Eve to have children. We have to presume that God is neither willing nor able to help us live together in respect and harmony. The image of the Stoic is the unfeeling, emotionless brute and the Epicurean as the pleasure-loving, self-indulgent hedonist.Stereotypes always fall short, but in this case, the common understanding of what it means to be a follower of the Stoics or Epicureanism has dealt two vibrant philosophies a grave injustice. BEGIN. Go to # 5. Enter Jesus. In a broad sense, it is a system of ethics embracing every conception or form of life that can be traced to the principles of his philosophy. Therefore any pain and suffering caused is a direct cause from God. There are other issues that need time to be resolved why God allows evil to continue for a while: (a) the issue of whether a human is serving God only for selfish interest written in Job 1:6-12; (b) to give other humans a chance to turn around their lives and be reconciled with God. Yes. (Joshua 24:15; Deuteronomy 30:19). Go to 27. Evil causes harm and suffering. One might reasonably have expected Him to have intervened during the massive slaughters of two world wars, but no. Go to 19 Our hope for our children to emerge victorious. Yeah God gives choice, free will. No. The Roman and Greek ‘gods’ were distant and uninvolved and therefore unrelated to ‘thinking’ and ‘sensing’ man’s life. Re: The Epicurean Paradox. Enter your email address to follow this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. Epicurus formed this dichotomy when he decided that he had to fend for himself. Yes. God gives comfort/hope to those suffering from evil. If the 1st evil was not caused by God, humans, or angel, then it could have been caused by natural disasters, or disease. 25. To deny the existence of God is itself a dark place with little light to follow. 14. In the ancient Greek story of the first woman,Pandora, we learn she opens all the plagues of the world, including the unbelieving deceitful hope. But here and there, sheltered from the noise and glare of the media, the old spiritual forces are at work" Roger Scruton, Leading conservative news and investigations site The National Pulse is today announcing its inaugural Patriot of the Year Award, handing the honor to former New York Mayor and President Trump’s…, The Attorney General of the United States appears to have taken the active step to assist the Joe Biden presidential campaign by hiding details of an investigation into his family…, Rita Hart, a Democratic House candidate, called for a recount in her district where she alleges “several recording errors critically changed the direction of the race.” Hart, who lost the…, …that they may be one just as We are one… —John 17:22Personality is the unique, limitless part of our life that makes us distinct from everyone else. Hence, the beginning of the fact/value split so prevalent in man’s thinking today. I must admit that I had never seen this "riddle", but many people ask me questions that relate directly to it. Why all the pain? He has shown how this turning can be done. Go to # 9. That’s the source of Faith to build on. We are left with the hope that more and more people will espouse the decent, humanistic ideas of Epicurus that stand for moderation, consideration for others, toleration, the search for peace of mind, friendship and caring for those less fortunate than ourselves. 3.A perfectly good being would want to prevent all evils. (Proverbs 14:12; 19:3). 16. if we are grasped by this vision we may also hear the question, "if not us, then who?" Yes. 8. What we should be doing is taking away as many means of murder as possible, and that refers, for a start, to controlling who can tote a gun. If he can, but does not want to, he is wicked. So as if we are in a excruciatingly painful season of evil, like all seasons, it’ll pass eventually, if we hope and continue to live. Would it have been better for God to have created humans without freedom to choose/free will? And therefore exists because of the good. Faith exists and our gift of life is itself the light to follow. Since creation, the devil has been trying to defeat God by offering mankind choices that are more comfortable. It would be impossible to love what is good unless one knew the difference between good and evil. What source allows us to learn and grow. Please forgive my typos. And he is not the owner of an oil well or a coal plant, complete with vested interests. Go to # 12. And if the gospel of Jesus is not the key to this task, then what is? Then he is not omnipotent. Millions have been calling upon Him for centuries, to no avail. Kitchen Series Cutting Board. He rescued his people – The Jews – only to have them turn their backs on him at the earliest sign of trouble. Return to your fortress, you prisoners of hope; even now I announce that I will restore twice as much to you. 20. Majority of humans have ignored God’s laws resulting in all sorts of evil. Do you believe this? Epicurean Home products are staples in every kitchen. 18. Any reader of the NT will find that God intervened in the most effective, dramatic and visible way by sending Jesus to earth. 17. jennifer "ann" a follower of the Way & henri, the parrolet, Like Albert Einstein “I have no special talents. A limited number will go to heaven and be kings/priests over the earth. Yes. Why the Epicurean Paradox is a false paradox. He went on to tweak Demetrius’ theory. Love itself proves Gods existence. Yes. Evil exist. 19. The Epicurean brand is a way of life. If they are neither able nor willing, they are neither omnipotent nor benevolent. Evil is eventually defeated, everywhere. It can be used or rejected by man. Do you like to continue? A choice exists for each of us to make sense of all that exists before us. Any reader of the OT will find that God did intervene often in the affairs of mankind. Time was needed to resolve this issue. Learn how your comment data is processed. He provides escape so those who truly love him. (Epicurean paradox question) Religion This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. Go to #8. As for you, because of the blood of my covenant with you. But, it was all temporary relief. If God stops all sorts of evil in this present world, then he would be working for Satan as policeman, emergency relief worker, etc. Our ability to care for ourselves in a healthy manner and see the good in things. Epicureanism continues to revive itself in the almost undeniable fact that there are many sufferings of humanity. Common sense, really, but then the “leadership” of the human race seems to has remarkably little of that. I will free your prisoners from the waterless pit. For ancient Israel he gave more than 600 laws. God will not be mocked. Please read our rules before commenting and understand that your comments will be removed if they are not up to standard or otherwise break the rules. The ‘true politics’ of the g […]. “What was most important in Epicurus’ philosophy of nature was the overall conviction that our life on this earth comes with no strings attached; that there is no Maker whose puppets we are; that there is no script for us to follow and be constrained by; that it is up to us to discover the real constraints which our own nature imposes on us.” ― Epicurus, The Epicurus Reader. No. 9. The Challenge of Jesus, N.T. And if God is illogical he cannot be God, by definition. (Isaiah 41:3; 44:7,8) Would it have been better if he used this power to prevent evil? Yes. We pride ourselves on original designs that are simple, functional and long-lasting. In the same way it appears obviously true that there is evil in the universe, but this too is not an accurate reflection of reality. Go to # 6. 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